masculinity question

[instg8r]

i didnt read everything that everybody else said but my favorite 'drag' character to see is the cowboy
has anybody seen the preview for the movie 'brokeback mountain' (i think thats the name - 2 hot actors playing gay cowboys looks good

[BareFoot4Gaia]

I truly miss the days when the fashions in Rock allowed me to truly celebrate and flaunt my androgyny, at least on stage .

[phoenix24]

here's my two cents:
when i think of masculinity (male-ness, whatever) i think of the protector, the provider (although women do that to!) the one who will go out and shovel the drive in sub-zero temps so you can stay inside and be warm. there's a solidity and a warmth, a calm strength. confidence.

and then there's Vin Diesel [evil]

[JuniperDusk]

I am more with Phoenix on this one, only because I look to the men in my life and how I find them to be ... well .. manly.

I think it's more of a character. Not so much the way they walk or the way they talk, but what they don't say and how they do things. As Phoenix said, the protector (although I agree too that women are as equal in protecting). You don't want a man yelling "Bring me that there jar of pickles and I'll open them for you!" ... with a burp ... a grunt and a "there ya go lil' darlin." It's when you quietly walk up and just hand it to them and they take it with confidence in knowing that they CAN open it for you.

Someone mentioned The Bird Cage ... Gosh I love that movie! You may also want to think of Will and Grace and see the difference with how Will and Jack act. Will is still so manly even when we see his sensitive side. If you ever watch Jack who's role is to be more flamboiant ... you will catch his natural masculinity slip through his acting... and you have to admit he's good at what he's doing. My fav is when he does the 'howler monkey' voice.

It's just there. I can honestly say I could never be a prissy, primpy, foo-foo, giggler kind of girl. I do know how to act like a lady, but I do not do it 24/7. It's just too much work!
Did I make sense? I hope I did.

[phoenix24]

i'm totally with you Juniper! you make lots of sense!! (and i love Will&Grace too!)

[Selene]

It's interesting...most of the posts here, except Riverstone's, have spoken of a view of masculinity that has to do with outward, superficial things, like stoicism, crassness, outspokenness, providing, sexual freedom, "manly" physique. Men don't allow themselves to be sensual because it is a feminine attribute. Men aren't spposed to attach feelings to sex, even riverstone in his breathtakig post said he experiences sex on a more emotional level and he specifically called his approach to sex "feminine".

I as a woman enjoy all of these things (expect the manly body). I'm awfully crass and outspoken, I don't think I need to be male to enjoy sexual freedom, and I as a woman can quite capably provide for my family.

These are all outer vestiges of human beings, and I don't see them as telling of masculinty or femininity.

My boyfriend is tall and willowly. Exceptionally graceful, almost feline, when he drapes himself across the bed or gestures with his hands as he speaks. He's sensitive, not afraid to burst into tears and feel deeply and with a rawness that overwhelms him those emotions that are "womanly": depression, thick, unabashed love, aching hurt, childish happiness and an intense love for anything beautiful. He's a sucker for animals and babies. He enjoys the sensuality of food and of rich fabrics. Sex for him is very emotional and spiritual. He crotchets. Needless to say, most people thought he was gay. 'Too feminine', they said. But he is all male, and all masculine.

Masculinity is a frame of mind. It's knowing that you are male. While a woman cradles within her the mystery of supporting life and giving birth, men cradle the life-giving seed. it's a primal thought..."I am man." The same primal thought that women have. And when I say woman and man I don't mean physically. there are female born who are masculine in their minds, and to me, those female are men. It's how they think.

Masculinity and femininity have so little to do with how you talk, dress, walk or act. It's a mental conception, and when you have it, you exude it. And it doesn't matter if less intuitive people don't see it. Someone truly comfortable with themselves, beyond sex or physical appearance, doesn't need to validate their masculinity or femininity.

That's my two cents. [nonsense]

[bobdebob]

Masculinty.... I have been told I was the most masculine gay man they have ever know just being myself, then others say I unabashadly flaunt my femine side of homosexuality by just being myself. I tend to find myself being more masculine when I am with women friends or when I am with my partner at a drag show. We both are very male and honestly take turns being the dominate male when in the bedroom. I do melt into a swooning admirior when a buff muscle man smiles at me. I do not belive masculinity is a finite thing. It is conjective and depends on where the person is and their personal predudices. It is a opinion and we all have our own unique one just as we do a gloryhole! [wink]
Blessed Be![smile]